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@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:59 AM)

basass truck

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:59 AM)

https://racine.craig...6411281777.html

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:55 AM)

they better hurry the fck up though I need to hang the rest of those dam cabinets

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:55 AM)

na, Im just not doing anymore tile work

@  scottydoggs98 : (14 December 2017 - 03:52 AM)

over price?

@  scottydoggs98 : (14 December 2017 - 03:52 AM)

he fired ya?

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:51 AM)

no permits pulled either for windows, plumbing work, electric etc, I could shut them down fast and hard

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:51 AM)

gotta collect what I am owed first before I be funny

@  scottydoggs98 : (14 December 2017 - 03:49 AM)

ha

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:49 AM)

2 outter units have no electric, thus no heat....... that bottom unit was just rebuilt.....much laughter there

@  scottydoggs98 : (14 December 2017 - 03:47 AM)

freeze and flood?

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:46 AM)

lower units have fresh cabinets installed, painted too, would be much laughter from me

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:45 AM)

dumb site frooze

@  scottydoggs98 : (14 December 2017 - 03:41 AM)

find out th ehard way if they got insurance lol

@  scottydoggs98 : (14 December 2017 - 03:41 AM)

yeah flood the lower floors

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 03:12 AM)

I hope they hit a water pipe in the floor honestly

@  scottydoggs98 : (14 December 2017 - 03:10 AM)

nice,,,,extra work

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 02:56 AM)

those units need subfloor rebuilt to HA!

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 02:53 AM)

4 units left to tile. lets just say my tile saw it all cleaned up ready to be brought home LOL

@  ithurtz : (14 December 2017 - 02:53 AM)

guy saying I want y ou guys to do it blah blah


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#1 ticketmagnet

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:34 AM

Hey guys, I'm new to regalgs.org because I never had a Buick before.  I recently purchased a 2000 GS with a blown motor and have dropped another engine in.  I was making a build thread on ClubGP (been a member there since I bought my GTP 13 years ago) but when I updated my email address I could no longer log in or get a response from anybody.  Honestly, my thread was pretty quiet anyway, so I thought I'd come over here and try to make friends with other Regal owners.

 

 

So I picked up the car with 4 chipped pistons and engine already pulled and torn down.  The setup was as follows:

-full intercooler (seems to be all ZZP parts)

-42lb Ford injectors

-SLP headers

-Full exhaust

-open cone air intake

-LIM machined for intercooler

-Supercharger stock

-2.8" pulley boys pulley

-everything in the engine stock

-transmission "built for 600hp"

-had an LS1 MAF, but wiring was for stock MAF.

-front mount heat exchanger was squished and leaking.

 

So now I've done the following:

-bought used engine from 2001 Regal

-put in a VS cam, 90# valve springs, new valve guide seals

-new LIM gaskets and such

-opened up the supercharger inlet to 75mm and ported the outlet, turning the "arrowhead" into a V and removing the wall.

-scored a used N* adapter plate

-put a Northstar throttle body on

-dropped engine in

-Attached MAF to throttle body and installed adapter harness.

-made up new vacuum lines, as old ones were all hacked up.

-built a new alternator brace and throttle cable bracket.

 

Here's some pics:

 

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(I changed the purge solenoid routing since this pic was taken - now it goes to the N* adapter plate.  The front valve cover PCV inlet goes to the port on the back of the TB).

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:40 AM

Since I only had 2 torque converter bolts, I picked up some Dorman ones at a local store.  They do clear everything now, but should I worry about TC balooning or anything?

 

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Update 12-May:

 

I gave up on finding a stock bolt and got one from the hardware store - just had to cut it shorter.  That happened many weeks ago, but I finally got around to installing them today:

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:40 AM

Welcome !
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:44 AM

Yeah, definitely! Glad you jumped right in and started posting up pics too. Good to see the insides of these things now and then!

Driving them is fun, but checking out what others are doing gives a good point of reference.

We head over to CGP now and then too, for crossover info, so good to see you here as well.

 

What's the major plan for it?

Oh, and I'm not sure about any issues you would have with the TC and bolt head clearance. How much power and/or rpm are you planning for this build? Is ballooning a common issue with some? Never heard of it in my circles, but not hanging with the big boys much either.

 

Keep 'em coming.

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:37 AM

Welcome and sounds like a good build so far to me!


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 11:33 AM

It's going to be my daily commuter - replacing the old GTP.  I've had that car from 30,000 miles to 202,000 (and counting).  I had always kind of planned on hitting 200k, then getting an '02 or '03 GTP and maybe moving some of the mods over.  But in the last year I've been thinking that a lowered GTP with aluminum grills and smoked taillights is more of a kids car, and the next logical step would be an SSEi. The used market is really good for both, but I think I'm just getting tired of Pontiac giant plastic and red backlights.  Sure, the aftermarket springs and swaybars are nice for those hard corners, but that's .01% of my driving time.  Potholes, seams and pressure ridges are everywhere.  So I started to really like the idea of the Regal - sort of a respectable car, but still fast - looks a little sportier than the average Buick but nothing flashy (or cheesy).  To be honest, if I had found a good deal on any of these cars with a turbo conversion I probably would have gone for it.

 

I'm thinking this setup could make 300WHP.  It really has everything except a big cam.  I went VS instead of XP because it was like $500 more in supporting mods for maybe 15 more HP.  I'm keeping the suspension stock and hoping this "Grand Touring" has comfy ride for me.  The car has about 100,000 miles on it and is real clean for a Michigan car.  I'll get pics of the whole car up once I'm able to wash it.

 

The front swaybar is broken.  Anybody have a spare?


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 01:30 PM

Welcome to the site, Luke!  Good stuff there.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 07:56 PM

I went VS instead of XP because it was like $500 more in supporting mods for maybe 15 more HP.


Put a set of roller rockers on it (not modified stock) and you'll see an even better gain then if you had gone with an XP.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:28 PM

Roller tip rockers?  I read some lengthy thread discussing how L67 made less power with them.  It had to do with the "variable ratio" the stockers have based on the angle of the tip when the valve is open vs a roller with a fixed ratio.  They were supposing the max lift was reduced, so you had to go with a bigger cam or larger ratio.  Although I don't know if they were comparing the rollers to 1.9s (modified) or something else.   What ratio roller is recommened - something like 1.7?  How much lift can I run with LS springs and otherwise stock heads?  Can you direct me to some reading?

 

I'm hoping to keep stockish MPG, if there's on impact there.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 11:17 PM

I'm hoping to keep stockish MPG, if there's on impact there.


Any type of mod is usually going to effect your mpg in some way, especially a cam.

You don't necessarily have to run a higher ratio but a full roller will give you less friction which in return will give you more power. That being said, I have seen most people use a 1.7 rocker with the VS.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:13 AM

I'm working through the 100 details of hooking everything up now.  Some of the wiring is done.  Made a bracket last night to mount the throttle and cruise cables to the Northstar:

 

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Front header is installed.  The rear was never removed from the exhaust and has been hanging in the car all this time.  I'm expecting a hassle getting it mounted again.

 

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I noticed this tapped hole in the LIM that wasn't in either of the stock LIMs here.  I also found a threaded IAT sensor in a bag of parts and figured they had been measuring air temp in the lower intake.  This seems like a good plan to me and now that the engine is in, I can see that the harness was extended to reach this location (although the wiring is coming apart so I'll have to redo it).

 

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 12:51 PM

Those headers are a pain to get on.  I had to pull the upper motor mounts off the core support and take the radiator fans out to get enough room to line everything up.

 

Also mounted a small reservoir for the intercooler system.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:29 AM

Nice thread.  I have a VS cam and I love it.  I'm going to get on the dyno here in a few months.  I am hoping to be between 300 and 320 WHP.  Those fuel rails you've got there make me a little nervous.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:30 AM

As far as the flex plate bolts.  Those will probably work, but there isn't a lot of clearance in there.  If it were me, I'd grab a few spares from the JY and put them in with some blue loktite.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:33 AM

Those fuel rails you've got there make me a little nervous.

Those came with the car, but are not in my long-term plans.

 

EDIT: I'm not 100% against modded rails, as I think a lot of people have made it work.  But if everything was fine, why would there be putty or epoxy or something around the FPR?  And weren't these line "flares" actually done with an allen socket or some kind of hex tool?  If the fuel injection clamps are real good, why did one line also have a worm clamp on it?

 

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So my thought was to pressurize the system and check for leaks, so I can at least start the engine.  Then I can look for any other stuff that needs addressing in parallel with figuring out a fuel rail solution.  I do have a stock set of rails and I've considered cutting them, then using a tubing bender and flare tool to modify them.  But I'm may also go aftermarket.

 

I don't have any interest in logs that cost as much as a motor, though.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:47 AM

Yeah,  keep your eyes out.  You can get modded ones for not too much.  Or spend a few bucks and get some high quality fuel logs.  I'm running the old style ZZP logs with a SS lines and a fuel lab FPR.
 

Not really in focus, but you get the idea.

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 04:00 AM

Are these headlights normal?  I was disappointed to find that there are no bulbs in them.  Is the retainer and everything OK and I just need bulbs?  It seems like the two sections are for high and low beam.  Should there be another metal diffuser/guard in the other one?

 

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 04:22 AM

those are good.  bulbs just snap into place.  


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Posted 08 March 2014 - 03:39 PM

This setup inspires much more confidence.  Actually, it's maybe TOO nice, but the only cheaper option would have been welding/brazing the rails and coming up with a lot of fittings and such.  Really cleans things up, too.  I don't understand why the factory setup used 2x the line they needed just to get the regulator in the front.

 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 02:44 AM

Built a fenderwell intake today.  Started off with the filter I happened to have on hand and made it fit:

 

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(guess I should replace that support tube)

 

Then I pulled part of an RV A/C blower housing from my scrap pile and made a block-off plate.

 

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Hey wait, isn't that coupler tube a familiar color?  Where do you think that came from?

 

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So here's the intake:

 

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